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We will look at further texts in the following messages.

However now having seen some of the previous messages it’s appropriate to address some of the standard answers given by those of the Sabbatarian persuasion on the text used so far.

Let’s apply them to the Scriptural test.

Firstly though: The word of God is the ultimate test!

Indeed its time to trust and obey there is no other way.

Thus our thinking is to conform to the Word.

Not that one manipulates the Word to conform to our way of thinking.

That is my own personal pursuit. So please by no ways see this as a confrontation opposed to SDA or any other Denomination. It’s simply to establish the truth.

People have called me deceived and worshipping satan, because I didn’t worship on Saturday, I have however worshipped on Saturday’s and there didn’t seem any difference (was I worshipping satan then too? Or because it was the right day now my worship went to Christ? (Hmmmm make one think.) anyway I determined in myself to see what the Bible had to say about this issue.

After all the truth has nothing to hide.

Amen?

A Sabbatarian perspective of Jeremiah 31: 31: "Behold, the days are coming, says the Lord, when I will make a New Covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah. 31:32 "NOT ACCORDING to the COVENANT that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand TO LEAD THEM OUT OF THE LAND OF EGYPT.

The Scripture says NOT according to the Old Covenant.
Some translations say not LIKE the Old Covenant.

The analogy of the Sabbatarian perspective, is that the law (10 Commandments) is now written on our hearts. The Sabbatarian position concludes, "So therefore indeed it is not the same because it is not on the tablets of stone any longer, but is NOW on our hearts". Thus the fulfilling of Jeremiah 31:31

Now that seems reasonable and totally plausible until one applies it to the Scriptural test.

Now if the law was the SAME law just now on our hearts, the fruit of it would still be the same, a ministry of death, of condemnation, a ministry that kills, is fading, has not glory, keeps you from seeing Christ. (2 Cor 3:3-17 as seen in message 3)

That the Covenant was on tablets of stone is not the significant aspect, the STONE doesn’t bring those aspects of condemnation, death etc, it is the Covenant ON them.

If the New Covenant is the same as the Old, then the fruit is the same.

 

Again if the Covenant is the SAME then how can it be adultery to join the two together?

Recap on Romans 7:1-4.

If you have union with your wife but now in a different bed, is it adultery? NO!

The changing of location doesn’t make it adultery!

But the changing of the wife DOES make it adultery!

Changing the location from tablets, to the heart, doesn’t make it adultery. (Different bed)

Changing of Covenants (wives) does make it adultery.

But importantly it is not adultery if one of the partners dies.

That is why we are to die to the Mosaic Covenant. (Which the Bible says specifically is the Ten Commandments).

So the Sabbatarian perspective does not in anyway stand up to the Scriptural scrutiny in its application to this New Testament Scripture.

On to the next objection, the Galatians’ text. [message 4].

The Sabbatarian position has no option but to agree this is the 10 Commandments spoken of here. However the Sabbatarian position explains it as this, Paul is saying to cast out the bondwoman the 10 Commandments (but Sabbatarians add the words) "FOR BEING SAVED".

This is not what the chapter is about and is yet another example of allowing ones Denomination Doctrines to override clear text, establishing to determine another Scriptural meaning to protect the Doctrinal perspective.

Paul has been quite specific and omits he’s talking about being saved?

Paul wasn’t trying to save them he was concerned with their discipleship, their continual walk IN Christ.

Lets be honest to the Word of God, Paul was writing to Christians not to the unsaved!

Even though the Sabbatarian view is taking Gal 4 out of context and is a creative thought to try and hold some integrity to ones doctrines lets see how it applies to the Scriptural test.

Galatians 4:30-5:1

Gal 4:30 Nevertheless what does the Scripture say? "Cast out the bondwoman and her son, for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the free woman." 4:31 So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman but of the free.

And continues in the next verse:

"Stand fast therefore in the liberty by which Christ has made us free, and do not be entangled again with a yoke of bondage".

Firstly the issue in this Galatians text does not have to do with Salvation for they had already received the Holy Spirit [Gal 3:2] but has every thing to do with continually walking IN Him.[Gal 3:3].

Having received the Holy Spirit they are already saved.

Eph 1:13-14 "In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, 1:14 who is the guarantee of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, to the praise of His glory." [Ephesians 1:13-14, & 2 Cor 1:21-22, & Ephesians 4:30]

Also note the words in Gal 4:31 "We are not OF the bondwoman but OF the freewoman.

The word "OF" denotes ownership, indeed we have been purchased out OF that LAW [Old Covenant] that bought condemnation and death and are now "OF" the free woman the New Covenant that brings freedom and life. [Romans 8:1-2]

Then to continue on Paul says in the following verse Gal 5:1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty by which Christ has made us free, and do not be entangled again with a yoke of bondage.

Corresponds harmoniously with what we have seen already the Old Covenant in Romans7:6

Romans 7:6 We are dead to what HELD us. (Bondage)

And also in Romans 7:4 We are dead to the law (Old Covenant) IN Christ so that we can belong to another. (Being the New Covenant). Purchased out OF the Old to become part OF the New Covenant body of believers.

Apart from the text above another example of what in Paul’s own word is bondage? In the same chapter of explaining that we are not of the bondwoman but of the free he says in Gal 4:9-10 "But now after you have known God, or rather are known by God, how is it that you turn again to the weak and beggarly elements, to which you desire again to be in bondage? 4:10 You observe days and months and seasons and years".

No Paul is not just talking about the Ceremonial law he is talking about the whole Law which includes the 10 Commandments the Mosaic Covenant because a few lines later in the same chapter Gal 4:24 Paul specifies he is talking about the Covenant that came at Mt Sinai. Which is specifically the 10 Commandments.

 

Romans 6:13 No longer present your members to sin as instruments of wickedness, but present yourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life, and present your members to God as instruments of righteousness. 6:14 For sin will have no dominion over you, since you are not under law but under grace.

Notice in this verse above the constant comparisons eg:

LAW

GRACE

Instruments of wickedness

Instruments of righteousness

Death

Life

Sin & dominion

no dominion (liberty/ freedom)

 

Another Sabbatarian objection is to the 2 Corinthian’s 3 passage of Scripture.

 

2 Corinthians 3:6 "A Ministry that kills"

2 Corinthians 3:7 "A ministry of Death"

2 Corinthians 3:7 "Its fading"/"passing away"

2 Corinthians 3:9

"A ministry of condemnation"

2 Corinthians 3:9 A ministry that (once) had Glory

2 Corinthians 3:10 "It has No glory"!(now)

2 Corinthians 3:11 & 14 "That which is passing away" / "set aside"

2 Corinthians 3:15&16 "A veil that keeps you from seeing Christ"!

The Sabbatarians again add the words "to be saved" at the end of these explanations.

Justifying that Salvation is by Grace alone therefore the 10 Commandments is a ministry of death if you rely on it "To be saved".

But hang on a minute is that not the "special message" that those who do not abide by the 10 Commandments will receive the "Mark of the Beast" and lose their Salvation.

So Sabbatarians are in fact making the 10 Commandments a part of the Salvation process "To be saved".

Come on you can’t have it both ways.

Are we going to keep circumcision and instruct others they must also? When Paul says "If you get yourself circumcised Christ profits you nothing" is Paul meaning "to be saved" but really we must still keep circumcision!

Or the New Moon feast and all the other ceremonial feasts are passed away "To be Saved". Yes Salvation is by Grace alone but none the less really we must keep all Ceremonial feasts, if you love God!

Quoting Salvation is by Grace alone, but faith with out works is dead. Are we going to condemn all others to lose their Salvation "Mark of the Beast" who do not keep Ceremonial feasts and circumcision with this type of justification.

Lets face it the passage is not talking about "to be saved" furthermore this line of reasoning does not fit harmoniously with the other passages of Scripture that we have seen.

Also there are some similarities between this Corinthian text and the Romans 7 Text;[study 4]

2 Corinthians 3:7 "A ministry of Death"

3:6 A ministry that kills

Romans 7:5 " A Old Covenant aroused sinful passions and brought death

Its obvious that Paul is talking about the Same Covenant and this truth remains unchanged: "it is Adultery have a combo deal IN Christ".

You cannot be under both the Old and the New Covenants at the same time.

Its Adultery PERIOD!!

  • Changing the location doesn’t make it adultery but Changing of the wife does.
  • Only when one partner in the marriage dies are you free to join to another.
  • That is why we die or are dead to the law.
  • It is not the same Covenant but now on our heart or it would be adultery. Period!

 

If one goes to great lengths to try a disprove these passages of Scripture that same type of reasoning could well determine that sin although the Bible declares it as Bad and wrong, that same line of reasoning mat well determine that sin isn’t bad but actually good.

Its time to be honest with God and accept that some Sabbatarian Doctrines does not stand up to Scriptural scrutiny. I’d far rather be right in God’s eyes than "right in a Denominations eye".

The Sabbatarian community challenges non-Sabbatarians on the correctness of their Doctrines. Well here the Bible is challenging you on the correctness of those doctrines.

The Sabbatarian "Special Message " Doctrines we have seen and will continue to see there is no Scriptural authority for such a accusation, repentance from this false teaching is required, its your God honoring duty. [More proof in the following studies].

Some want to prove that the Old Covenant is not just the 10 Commandments but is the whole Law. In attempting to prove this they will disprove the modern day Moral Law / Ceremonial Doctrine (theory) the very doctrine (theory) they’re trying to protect.

 

Here is a small summary of Biblical quotes that we have seen:

Christ is the end of the Law,[Romans 10:4] If one is led by the Spirit your not under the law, [Gal 5:18]The law is NOT for the righteous but the unrighteous,[1 Tim 1:8] the law’s purpose is to led us to Christ [Gal 3:24]and the law is a shadow[Hebrews 10:1], Christ is the substance[Col 2:17]. I’m now dead to the law [Romans 7:4] and so on.

Some are suggesting that although this is true, they still are suggesting that we are to: resurrect that, which IN CHRIST we are dead to, and become alive to it all again? Scripture? [None!]

The substance has arrived but they suggest paying attention to the shadow. Scripture? [None!]

We are clothed in Christ’s righteousness; the law is NOT for the righteous but the unrighteous, which is totally consistent with the law bringing us to Christ.

Yet some suggest that we still observe the Mosaic law after knowledge /relationship in Christ. Scripture? [None!] The Scriptures that Sabbatarians use to endorse the Mosaic Covenant (10 Commandments) such as in 1 John "Keep God’s Commandments" will be addressed in a later message.

  • The law brings us to Christ, period. It is not a Christian check list nor a standard which confirms which doctrines are true. Doing these things is applying a role to the Law for which it is not purposed. The Bible says the law is to led us to Christ, and is until Christ, once faith has come we are no longer under the law, the law is a shadow.[Gal 3:24, 3:19, 3:25, Hebrews 10:1]
  • What SCRIPTURE is there that tells us the Mosaic law is a checklist, of correct faiths, or true doctrines?

Scripture?[None!] Only human reasoning and speculations.

The texts in 1 John "keep the commands of God" are addressed in a later message.

Who do we believe? Peoples RENDITIONS of what they believe (sincerely) or
what the BIBLE actually says.

I can see no way around this Scripturally. Is the Holy Spirit a trickster? No way! . (2 Tim 3:16 ALL scripture is God breathed…) And since the Holy Spirit is not a trickster how can he not mean what is actually said in light of the weight of so much clear and concise Scripture, its not 1 isolated text but multiples of whole passages we are looking at.

Its Time to trust and obey there’s no other way.

Before some start thinking of Scriptures about "if you love me obey my commands" like in John and 1 John: or other Scriptures like Isaiah 66:23 & Matt 5:17 etc.

These and more will addressed from Scripture the next few messages.

Surely the word is not going to contradict itself, after having made such a clear stance on the topic with multitudes of Scriptural references substantiating this stance? The whole book of Galatians is about those that tried to get the Galatians to obey the law and Paul called them false brothers those set out to deceive them that preach another gospel, which is really no gospel at all. All because they would not or could not accept that the Galatians had a freedom in Christ and they tried to make them slaves to the law.

Surely the Holy Spirit that inspired the writings of the Scripture is not going to write it in such as way that Scripture is a play on words to deceive even the elect if possible. No!

The Holy Spirit is not into playing games using trick words to mislead people hindering God’s heart desire which is that all to repent and be saved.

The Holy Spirit is then opposing God desires.

 

 

Come on…THE BIBLE SAYS WHAT IT SAYS.

The Bible says the Law was ADDED because of transgressions. Then it was added! [Gal3:19]

The Bible says the law made sin abound. Then that is what it does. [Romans 5:20]

The Bible says the law makes known to us what sin is. Then it is so. [Romans 7:7]

The Bible says the law is in charge to bring people to Christ. Then that is what it does.[Gal 3:24]

The Bible says the law is NOT for the righteous, then it is indeed so.[1 Tim 1:8]

The Bible says the law leaves us helpless in need of a Saviour. It is so. [Romans 8:2-3]

The Bible says the law brings death, then that is what it does. [Romans 8:2] [2 Cor 3:7]

The Bible says that the law is put aside "IN CHRIST" then that is what happens.[2 Cor 3:14]

The Bible says we are to cast out the bondwoman (10 C ), then it is to be done.[Gal 4:30]

The Bible say after faith has come you are not under the law, then that is indeed so.[Gal 3:25]

The Bible says Christian’s are dead to the law, then that is what you are.[Romans 7:4]

When the Bible says Christ is the end of the Law for Believers. It is indeed so.[Romans 10:4]

When the Bible says the law was added UNTIL Christ. Then that is indeed so.[Gal 3:19]

When the Bible says the righteous requirement of the law is fulfilled in me through Christ, then it is so.

When the Bible says the law incl. (10 Commandments) is fulfilled IN me not BY me, then that is indeed so.[Romans 8:4]

If per chance some are going it can’t be, what is being said, can’t be!

Do we question the Bibles authority?

Or do we question the Sabbatarian Denomination’s authority?

The two are not in harmony, whom do you stand by?

A Church denomination or the Bible?

This determines what one loves more, the Religious rituals of a denomination or the true Word of God.

Does one love Church more than God?

Do Sabbatarians feel uncomfortable with this line of questioning, why?

Its just the same line of questioning that the "Special Message" challenges to the non Sabbatarian Bible believing community.

Why pick up again that which was weak and unable to change our heart, that would be applying an application to the law for which it was not purposed. [as seen in message 5]

The Law points to Christ, when you come to Christ you don’t need the Mosaic Law for we are clothed in the Righteousness of Christ who fulfilled the Law and the righteous requirement of the Law is fulfilled in us.

Christians are under the Law of Christ, the Law of the Spirit. [Gal 6:2, Romans 8:2]

Who is the Spirit?

2 Corinthians 3:17 Now the Lord is the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.

 

Now on to a specific topic the "Eternal Moral Law of the 10 Commandments".

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